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June 2001
Alok Saxena

Protector of Paradise

His job as the Chief Wildlife Warden of the Andaman and Nicobar Islands is probably twice as difficult as that of most of his colleagues in mainland India. This is because he must not only protect some of India's finest rainforests, but its finest coral and mangroves as well. Ranged against him are national and international poachers and the legendary apathy of a nation that seems unable to display the proactiveness necessary for effective wildlife protection.

Alok Saxena © Sarang Kulkarni

Tell me first how an Uttar Pradeshi landed up so far from the Indian heartland and what exactly is the AGMUT cadre to which you belong?
It's simple. When anyone joins the Forest Service, the government allots you to a state, not necessarily the one you originally came from. In my case I was allotted the Union Territory Cadre, which we refer to as AGMUT - Arunachal, Goa, Mizoram and the Union Territories. I must have done something good in my previous janam (life) because my postings will almost invariably now be to one or other of these beautiful places!

And what was your academic preparation for your current job?
I went to school in Uttar Pradesh as a young boy, completed my graduation and post-graduation from Lucknow University and then joined the Central Drug Research Institute in Lucknow as Junior Research Fellow with a CSIR fellowship.

Were you headed for a career in pure science?
Not really. Chemistry always fascinated me, but after completing an M.Sc. in Biochemistry and a Ph.D. in Chemistry in 1983, I altered direction because I wanted to work in the area of forests. For this I actually had to "go back to school" and opted for an AIFC diploma, equivalent to an M.Sc. in forestry, or an MBA.

As simple as that? Can one just change course mid-stream and head towards Chief Wildlife Wardenship?
(Laughing) Nothing is ever so simple. I was no doubt interested in wildlife, but all forest jobs are not necessarily wildlife jobs. I had to "go through the mill", before I was able to land up in this heavenly place! For years and years, I had to study silviculture and forestry - both of which are really interesting subjects - but it was only when I joined the A&N Administration in March 1998 as Chief Wildlife Warden that my dream to work hands-on with wildlife came true.

Protecting the wildlife of the A&N Islands is a crucial assignment. How come you were entrusted with such a key portfolio without any previous experience?
Over the years, working in the heart of forests, an understanding of nature seeps into you almost by osmosis. To that extent almost all forest officers are experienced. Besides, protecting wildlife is not the "touch and feel" kind of experience that most people visualise. In truth, more than 95 per cent of our task is administrative.

Surely protecting sharks and dolphins and rainforests must mean more than that?
It means much more to me, personally. But as Chief Wildlife Warden, apart from an inner respect and concern for nature, my prime qualification must be an understanding of the law, the way the government works and an ability to manage and motivate people.

In which other locations have you served?
Soon after I passed out from the Indian Forest College, Dehradun in 1985, I worked as a Divisional Forest Officer (DFO) in the rainforests of Mizoram where I was the Planning Officer till July 1993. After this I joined the Forest Survey of India in Dehradun as its Deputy Director and right up to March 1998 I was given the opportunity to document and assess the forest cover around the whole country. This was a life-changing experience for me as I could see before my eyes how our forests had vanished. I am grateful for the chance to play a role in defending them today.

So what does your job entail? How do you go about saving this exquisite island paradise?
I am, quite simply, charged with enforcing the Wildlife (Protection) Act. I try to do this with all available resources, which I must confess are sometimes hopelessly inadequate. For instance the forest department does not even have a sea-worthy boat to travel to most of the islands in our charge. But, fortunately, we have an excellent working relationship with other departments. With humility and an attitude of learning and trust, we get by.

Do others actually come forward to help?
Nature is such a powerful force that it creates people to defend it. Take the example of the little-known Edible-nest Swiftlets Collocalia fuciphaga. Dr. Ravi Sankaran, a scientist with the Sálim Ali Centre for Ornithology and Natural History (SACON) accompanied me in December 1998 to inspect the natural caves where these birds nest on Interview Island. Ravi's life is devoted to saving these birds and all his knowledge, experience and concern is available to us to save the species. Commander Abu Talah of the Coast Guard is another example I can quote of a person willing to help at every juncture.

Our forest staff works against all odds to patrol the most vulnerable areas. When our network of informers among the fishermen let us know about the movement of foreign poachers, we alert the police and Coast Guard. But clearly we need to do more.

Is yours a dangerous job?
Not any more dangerous than yours! I have to say nevertheless that the possibility of an unwanted encounter with temperamental feral elephants on Interview Island did once give me an anxious moment or two, particularly when we lost our way and had to walk five hours to the swiftlet nesting site!

But most wildlifers suggest that wild animals are the least of their problems.

They are right. The real danger comes from humans who wish to cash in on the profitable wildlife trade. Though it is the Coast Guard that is in charge of protecting our waters from armed international poachers, we must always be prepared for encounters with criminals who are better armed and equipped than we are.

As a 'land-lubber', how did you take to the seas?
Surprisingly well, actually. But it took all the will and determination I had. En route to the Cinque Island Sanctuary in April 2000, for instance, the weather suddenly took a turn for the worse and our tiny fibreglass boat with its OBM engine proved to be quite inadequate. With strong winds, high waves and no signs of an end to the storm, we thought the boat would capsize. Not a happy thought when you consider that I can hardly swim! But an alternate route took us there (in three hours instead of 45 minutes) and we got the job done.

What would you say are your main constraints as Chief Wildlife Warden?
The fact that this is an archipelago makes our problems very different from those on the mainland. To begin with, islands are more prone to extinctions, because species have no space to retreat to in case of stresses such as disease or ecological change. On top of this, we have hardened criminals who come from neighbouring countries to poach species such as estuarine crocodiles and other marine species such as sharks and sea cucumbers. I feel hamstrung in Port Blair sometimes, when I cannot physically challenge them.

The department desperately needs its own boats that are capable of speeds of around 25 knots so that we can outrun the fast boats of poachers. And a couple of larger boats, capable of crossing the hazardous Ten Degree Channel that divides the Andaman and Nicobar group of islands are a must.

You certainly have a huge area to protect.

Yes, there are 349 islands in the A&N chain, scattered over a distance of 400 nautical miles from north to south. Each is a biological treasure trove. The collective length of the coastline is approximately 2,000 km. Here there are innumerable mangrove creeks, the breeding grounds of most marine organisms. You can well imagine how difficult it is to patrol such terrain.

The bottom line is that we are losing our biodiversity much too fast. Tell me frankly, is your staff equal to the task of protection?
To be honest, no. But then neither is the staff in our tiger reserves equal to the task of saving tigers. This is not the fault of the staff, who are as capable and brave as anyone else. All forest departments suffer from insufficient manpower, a lack of effective training programmes, inadequate mobility and communications. We consistently ask for more realistic allocations to develop our infrastructure and to build our capacity for protection. I do not know why, but I suppose we are low on the national priority.

In such a situation how can the coral reefs of the Andamans be saved?
Mercifully, in most places where deforestation-related siltation has not choked them, the coral reefs in the A&N islands are still among the healthiest in the world. This was recently confirmed when the Reefwatch Marine Conservation scuba-diving team, of which you were a part, provided evidence that we were spared the coral bleaching that El Ninõ caused in reefs across the world, including Lakshadweep.

However, there are patches where live coral formations are low because of faulty agricultural practices, strong currents, wave action, long exposure to sunlight during low tides, oil spills and pollution.

Who monitors this?
We have recently started a regular survey and monitoring programme of coral reefs in 19 major sites. Sarang Kulkarni, a marine biologist who accompanied you on the Reefwatch survey is working with us on a contract basis and the first survey results are in. But we have a long way to go. I am hopeful that in the next few months this work will be greatly enhanced.

But you do not even have a team of scuba divers. How are you going to survey or protect corals?
We are in the process of training our field staff in coral survey and monitoring methods, scuba diving and digital data processing. Additionally, we are undertaking an outreach programme that seeks to share the worth of corals with the general public, particularly local youth. Brochures, booklets and posters highlighting the importance of coral ecosystems have been published and distributed. We hold regular nature camps for students in the Marine National Park at Wandoor. We are doing what we can.

Why don't you have a training programme for scuba diving? Do you dive?
Not yet! But I recently met with Mitali Kakar of Reefwatch who offered to train forest and Coast Guard people without charge. I understand several Coast Guard volunteers have put up their names. I will be the first among forest officers to volunteer for this training... we can then go diving together!

The Centre is funding the training of our staff in survey and monitoring techniques for coral reefs. Both scuba diving and database management are a part of this effort. You certainly have your hands full. What are the immediate priorities ahead for the Chief Wildlife Warden of the A&N Islands?
1. Improve our communications network (a high frequency wireless network has just been allotted).
2. Build capacity for reef survey and monitoring work.
3. Set up staff training for data processing, wildlife research and scuba diving.
4. Improve mobility for protection staff by procuring high speed sea-worthy vessels.
5. Arm forest staff adequately.
We have requested the Government of India to enable us to do all this, but it would be good to have marine and rainforest conservation groups around the world spend some of the huge sums of money they collect from their supporters to protect the global biodiversity heritage that is the A&N Islands.
What about our own scientific institutions? Are they supporting you?
We do work with a host of scientific institutions, including the Wildlife Institute of India (WII), Sálim Ali Centre for Ornithology and Natural History (SACON), Indian Institute of Remote Sensing (IIRS), National Botanical Research Institute, Forest Research Institute, Department of Marine Biology of the Annamalai University, Zoological Survey of India (ZSI) and the Botanical Survey of India (BSI). WII is even helping us to write a management action plan for the Mahatma Gandhi Marine National Park at Wandoor. A UNDP project on turtles and some research projects are also in the pipeline.

Is this resulting in hard-core protection on the ground?
With SACON, we are exploring ways to implement technologies for farming Edible-nest Swiftlet nests in a way that allows the birds to feed in the wild. We hope this will ultimately protect wild nests. If successful, the project could provide a sustainable livelihood for locals. IIRS, Dehradun is working on biodiversity characterisation using remote sensing coupled with ground inventories. A lot of work is on to document the flora and fauna of the islands. All these initiatives will help improve protection.

Is the Central Government doing enough?
It funds a number of our schemes. Short duration projects include the development of national parks and sanctuaries, management and conservation of coral reefs in the A&N Islands, management and conservation of mangroves in the A&N Islands and the Management Action Plan of Great Nicobar Biosphere Reserve. Longer term projects include the establishment of a biological park at Chidiyatapu and a Government of India/UNDP project on the management and conservation of coral reef ecosystems in the A&N Islands.

The recently concluded rapid survey by Reefwatch did not reveal a single shark! And the sea bed seems to have been vacuumed clean of sea cucumbers. What's to be done?
We know about the shark finning carried out to cater to the demand for soup in the Far East. It's a terrible practice. Added to my woes as Chief Wildlife Warden is the fact that no one has undertaken a study to assess the status of either sea cucumbers or sharks in the Andamans. Worse, neither species is protected by any schedule of the Wildlife (Protection) Act, 1972. We have asked that this situation be remedied. Let's wait and see what happens.

After devastating reefs in different parts of the world, tour operators are lobbying to be given a free hand in the A&N Islands. How are you going to tackle this problem?
I know about the impact of destructive tourism and we will not allow that brand of visitor to run riot in this ecologically fragile area. But this does not mean that we should be against all kinds of tourism. In fact, by selling our destination as a pristine haven, we can keep out the loud and garrulous hordes, and promote sensitive eco-tourism. By imparting ecological awareness among national and international tourists, this could very well help achieve our educational objectives as well.

And what about timber felling? Is this going to come to a halt?
Actually, timber operations are in sharp decline in the Andamans. I am not aware whether there is a clear policy to phase out this activity completely, but it is already a shadow of what it was.

Are you planning to increase the protected area network in the A&N Islands?
We already have 96 wildlife sanctuaries and nine national parks here. We intend to protect these well, rather than merely increase the number.

Do you have a good working relationship with local NGOs?
Yes we do, though they often expect miracles from us! The Andaman & Nicobar Environment Team (ANET) helps us to protect turtles and survey reefs, the Society of Andaman & Nicobar Ecology (SANE) and the Andaman Prakritik Sansad keep us informed of conservation issues and we coordinate action with them.

Is there a message you would like to send to the children of India?
Yes. That some of us are working to protect a heritage that belongs to them. Also that the ocean is the origin of all life on earth, and their future depends on the survival and health of the sea. That they should not repeat the mistakes of the generations that have gone before them and should learn to live with nature rather than try and rule it.

 

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