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August 2000
Bivash Pandav

Turtle man of Orissa

Turtle man of Orissa Winner of a Sanctuary ABN AMRO Bank Millennium Wildlife Service Award, Bivash Pandav is one of India's bright young field biologists on whom the hopes of Indian nature conservation are pinned for the future. Twenty-nine-year-old Bivash is already acknowledged to be one of the world's leading experts on the olive Ridley turtle. He and his team have tagged 2,000 mating pairs and 10,000 females along Orissa's beaches.

Bivash Pandav © Ashish Dhir

Have you ever known fear? Has your work ever put you in a life-threatening situation?
In July 1997, I was surveying the nests of salt water crocodiles in the Bhitarkanika mangroves. There was this Phoenix patch in the Dangamal forest block where the density of crocodile nests was extremely high. Dhumal, my field assistant and I had already located two nests and were moving further when we suddenly came across a nesting female. She must have been about four metres long and she chased us for almost 15 m. In trying to get away I fell down in the mud and really thought that was it. Dhumal dragged me to safety. I was shaken to the core!

And this never cured you of your wildlife addiction?

Not one bit! It only added to the allure! The fear of wild animals is an urban phenomenon. I would imagine that there is more to fear from city threats, which far outweigh any that you may face in the wild. I remember, for instance, following a king cobra for about an hour one morning in the mangrove forests of Bhitarkanika, where I was studying water monitors. The snake was on the edge of a tidal creek, flicking its tongue in and out of its mouth. When I disturbed it, the cobra merely turned around slowly and raised its hood. I spent 55 minutes with the exquisite king cobra and at no time was I under any threat because I respected its space.

And what does Anu, your wife, have to say about this fascination of yours?

Anu happens to be a wildlife biologist too and seems to be even more keen on field trips than I am! We met at the Wildlife Institute of India, Dehradun where she was my junior for four years and we were recently married. We both consider ourselves lucky.

That's absolutely wonderful! And what drew you into all this? Why wildlife and not, say, electronics or banking or advertising?
My God! I can't even imagine any other life. I get to sit for endless nights on moonlit beaches with Anu to watch some of the world's oldest animals coming ashore to nest in thousands! If I were not being paid to do this, I would pay someone to let me do it!

But seriously, the river Mahanadi and the respect both my parents, who were doctors, have always had for nature was my inspiration. My childhood at Banki, a small, sleepy town on the bank of the serene Mahanadi led me to fall in love with nature. Advertising? Banking? Would they have allowed me to stay close to the natural world?

That's unique. A river was your inspiration?
Well, more than just the river. After I graduated in Zoology from Utkal University, I visited the Nandankanan Zoo (the same one that is in the news today for the tiger deaths) and there I met the-then zoo veterinarian, Dr. L.N. Acharjyo who literally changed the course of my life. He was the one who encouraged me to take up a career as a wildlife biologist. I also read an article in the Readers Digest about Dr. Salim Ali, after he had died. That article got me interested in birds, which became a virtual addiction. When I graduated, I joined the Wildlife Institute of India to do my Master's in wildlife science. And that was that!

And what about the turtles? Are they really in as much trouble as we imagine? You must be delighted that this year, a record number nested successfully!

Yes, it's been a great nesting year at Gahirmatha. But a word of caution is called for about 'successful nesting'. Remember that the half-million turtles and more that came ashore to nest far exceeded the available nest sites. Many eggs, laid only days before, were therefore destroyed by subsequent nesters in the Nasi group of islands. Since 1994, I have often walked 50 km. in a day along Orissa's coastline and am convinced that we can save the turtles, but only if we save their beaches.

How on earth do you manage to count turtles in the dark anyway, since they seem to come ashore to nest only at night?

Counting every turtle during the arribada is next to impossible, but it's not as though we have no proven estimation techniques. In fact, we have even evolved some computer programmes to help us analyse the data we collect. But the counting techniques must be rigorous and conducted according to strict monitoring protocols.
Coming back to your question about this nesting season I must say it felt really good to know that such a large number of turtles are even present in our coastal waters and that they are using the Gahirmatha beach. But I am really concerned about the number of nests that are exposed every year by beach erosion. Tidal inundation also causes eggs to drown and the 'success rate' or what we call 'recruitment' is therefore quite low at Gahirmatha.

So what's the verdict? Good news on the turtle front or bad news?

Mixed news. Never have so many turtles died in trawler nets before. By some counts this figure was over 20,000 turtles! No one seems to be talking about this because they must be overwhelmed with this year's nesting figure. Wherever there has been organised harvesting, or large-scale killing of turtles, populations have plummeted over the years. It is impossible to successfully manage marine turtles at stable population levels while subjecting them to large-scale mortalities.

That certainly sounds like bad news…

Yes, but with the protection of their nesting sites and coastal waters we can look forward to secure populations. That is good news and I must believe that this will actually happen.

Where did you find so much enthusiasm when all of us seem destined to work in a sea of bad news?

My optimism is not unfounded. I have seen nature repair itself before my very eyes. While nature is indeed fragile at one level, at another level it is tough, having
had billions of years of 'experience' in dealing with traumas.

And what help do you have in the field? Is there a team at work saving turtles?

I have an excellent team of 18-20 local boys from the coastal villages who work with me during the nesting season. The boys are extremely well-trained and monitor the number of turtles nesting along the coast, count the dead turtles washed ashore and tag the turtles that are coming ashore to nest. And, of course, the joint initiative that involves almost all players is Operation Kachhapa, an effort put into motion by the Wildlife Protection Society of India. With the help of the local media, Operation Kachhapa has generated tremendous awareness about the plight of marine turtles in Orissa. I would say almost no one who reads a newspaper in Orissa is unaware now of the unacceptable mortality rate of turtles.

But is this actually having any effect, for instance on the use of Turtle Exclusion Devices by trawlers (TEDs)?

There are more effective and relatively easier ways to minimise the threats posed by trawlers than TEDs. Turtles are not distributed all along the Orissa coast, rather they are found in certain patches of coastal waters. Such aggregations are known as 'reproductive patches' and protecting these must become our immediate priority. Our research shows that turtles are not evenly distributed in the 750 sq. km. Gahirmatha Marine Sanctuary, but are found in an area of roughly around 35 - 50 sq. km. just south of the nesting beach. If this area is effectively patrolled and kept free of trawler nets, the Gahirmatha mortality can be minimised. The same goes for other reproductive patches along the coast.

Another vital step is the enforcement of a ban on near-shore mechanised fishing activities. The Orissa Marine Fishing (Regulation) Act, 1982 already bans any kind of mechanised fishing within five kilometres of the shore line, which is precisely where olive Ridleys congregate during the breeding season.

What are your views on the import bans on non TED-caught shrimp, imposed by the US, which was overruled by the WTO?

Anyone who sees turtles drown in the shrimp trawls as I have will support such a ban. I know the economic implications of such bans are far reaching, but what is the use now of entering into arguments with the Government of India, which has fought and won its case in the WTO? One way or another, I just want the killing of turtles to stop. I have often chased and apprehended illegal trawlers that are taking a terrible toll on turtles every single year.
And remember, by merely fitting a TED in a trawler the problem of turtle mortality is not going to be solved. At sea the fishermen either remove the TED from the net or seal the opening passage for the turtles in the net and continue with business as usual. This is actually happening in other parts of the world where use of TED has been made mandatory. More effective would be a total ban on near shore trawling, which would also benefit traditional fishermen.

What about protection of turtles in other beaches, away from Orissa?

The Bay Islands, Andaman and Nicobar and the Lakshadweep islands support a good population of hawksbill, leatherback and green sea turtles. Sporadic nesting of olive Ridleys also takes place all along the Indian coast, but little work has been done on documenting this. Satish Bhaskar has carried out some of the pioneering work on marine turtles in the Andaman and Nicobar Islands through the Madras Crocodile Bank Trust. But this study is now almost a decade old and no recent information is available from these areas. The Central Marine Fisheries Research Institute, Cochin, has carried out a countrywide survey of incidental capture of sea turtles during fishing operations. But there are undoubtedly glaring gaps in our knowledge about the conservation status of marine turtles along the Indian coast.

Surely this situation must be remedied?

Actually the Ministry of Environment and Forests and the Wildlife Institute of India are in the process of implementing a countrywide United Nations Development Project (UNDP) study on marine turtles. In the initial phase all the coastal states and Union Territories are being surveyed to document sea turtle nesting and associated problems.

How do you actually keep track of turtles?

Well, we tag them, and then when they are recaptured in different places, we know something about their migration habits. A turtle we tagged in Orissa near the Devi river mouth on March 13, 1997 was found 22 nautical miles off Kalmunai, on the east coast of Sri Lanka on April 27, 1997. In other words, within 44 days it swam nearly 2,000 km. We have 13 recaptures from Sri Lanka and three from the Gulf of Mannar to date. I can therefore say with some certainty that, outside the breeding season, turtles nesting along the Orissa coast reside somewhere in the Gulf of Mannar and the coastal waters off Sri Lanka.

We also know that tagged turtles in Orissa use more than one beach during a breeding season for egg laying. For example, turtles tagged while nesting at Rushikulya were recaptured a month later near the Devi river mouth. Similarly, turtles tagged at the Devi river mouth and Gahirmatha were recovered nesting elsewhere during the same nesting season. This has led us to believe that the turtles using the three rookeries in Orissa are not different populations, rather they are part of one large population. We must factor in the complex business of multiple estimation of their numbers. We also know that large-scale mortality in any of the nesting beaches affects the nesting population on other beaches.

Do you have the support of the fishing community in your endeavours?

Not to the extent we want, but we can see that this has to be one of our prime conservation objectives in the coming years. We need their cooperation and active help to protect turtle aggregations in the coastal waters off Orissa just as much as we need their support to protect nesting beaches from anthropogenic disturbances. We are going about this by educating younger fisherfolk on the importance of turtles in the marine ecosystem. They are key to our long-term conservation objectives.

So are you just an olive Ridley man or do other turtle species form a part of your scheme of things?

All turtles interest me. I intend to take up field studies on leatherback and hawksbills in both the Bay Islands in the near future.

Did Orissa's 1999 super cyclone have any adverse effect on the nesting sites?

Two of the nesting beaches, Rushikulya and the Devi river mouth were in the path of the October cyclone. The nesting beach at Rushikulya was unaffected. But the three kilometre long sand spit near the Devi river mouth got disconnected from the main land and has now become an island. Actually this might prove to be a boon to the turtles as there might be less disturbance, but unfortunately, the nesting of turtles on this island was not properly documented after the cyclone in the latest nesting season.

Do you think the cyclone will encourage the Orissa government to rethink its attitude towards coastal belts? Will there be fewer attempts to destabilise the coast?

I can't really say how the government will react, but I know from personal experience, that mangroves act as a major barrier to tidal surges during cyclones. There used to be extensive mangrove forests in the Mahanadi delta and in the area between Paradeep and Devi river mouth. This was hacked down over the years. Had this vegetation been standing, the intensity of the cyclones impact would have been less and lives would have been saved. Fortunately, extensive mangrove forests exist in the Brahmini-Baitarani delta and though this area was not in the eye of the October cyclone but only at the outer periphery, it certainly acted to protect the coast.

Do you face problems from large projects such as the Dhamra port and the industries coming up around Rushikulya where your turtles nest?

Yes, they pose a serious threat to the turtle population in Orissa. The proposed port at Dhamra is located in the vicinity of Gahirmatha Marine Sanctuary. If this port becomes operational, the light pollution alone could play havoc with the survival rates of hatchlings, which will instinctively head the wrong way when they become disoriented. Any artificial illumination near nesting beaches will disrupt critical behaviour, including nest site choice and nocturnal sea-finding behaviour of both hatchlings and nesting females. Pollution will only aggravate this problem. Chemical industries near the Rushikulya rookery are already traumatising the turtles.

Do you see more young people following your lead? Is natural history research a viable career option for young people?

This country offers some of the best opportunities for natural science/wildlife research. Young people may not get rich quick this way, but I promise you that the satisfaction derived is worth a million dollars! But for work conditions to improve we need much better rapport between researchers and park managers. The latter can really make life uncomfortable for the former and this could possibly dissuade young and inexperienced researchers. For a better relationship perhaps we need to undertake the type of studies that actually help park managers do their job better. This may not hold true for all cases. And finally the most crucial thing, permission to conduct research in protected areas should be obtained on the merit of the proposed work and this should not be affected by any personal bias.

 

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