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You used to work
with tribal communities. How do you view the widening chasm
between wildlife conservationists and tribal welfare groups
in India?
Frankly, with a lot of despair. The polarisation is needless.
Some of the most enjoyable and illuminating moments in my
life have been spent in the company of tribal people. Roaming
with the Irulas of Chinglepet District during my
teenage years, I learnt a great deal about the natural history
of the scrublands around Chennai. I was also privileged to
assist in setting up the Irula Snake Catchers’ Cooperative,
a long-standing, and perhaps unique example in India of the
sustainable use of a natural resource. As a filmmaker, I have
spent weeks with the Kadars, camping in the shola
forests of south India. I am always awed by their knowledge
of the natural world and I think it is a tremendous shame
that enough isn’t being done to document and harness
this vanishing wisdom.
That is perhaps what the architects of the new Scheduled
Tribes (Recognition of Forest Rights) Bill, 2005 are
saying as well. They ask that tribal communities be given
title to forest lands.
I think all humans are entitled to a place they can call home,
and tribal communities shouldn’t be an exception. They
too have aspirations for a better life. But surely, we can
find solutions that satisfy peoples’ aspirations without
sacrificing our remaining forests? I’ve seen too much
to share the misty-eyed romanticism of many who think that
all indigenous people live in ‘harmony with nature’.
Today, in India, I think only the Sentinelese, who
inhabit North Sentinel Island in the Andamans, can be described
as living in complete ‘equilibrium’ with their
surroundings. That’s because they inhabit a ‘closed’
ecosystem with no interference by or commerce with the outside
world. They live by that strict law of nature – survival
of the fittest.
And elsewhere in India?
Virtually everywhere else in India, indigenous people are
caught in an unfortunate cusp that straddles two worlds with
market forces ranging from giant pharmaceutical firms to dealers
in the wildlife trade, exploiting their knowledge of the jungle.
No longer are they judiciously using the resources of the
forest for their own subsistence, but are being made to indiscriminately
and unsustainably collect forest products to feed a bottomless
national and international market. Something needs to be done
urgently to set things right and populist slogans such as
“give the forests to the people and they will look after
them” are not the answer.
What would you say is the answer?
We need well-considered, site-specific solutions that will
treat indigenous people with dignity, respect and fairness,
without imperiling what little is left of our natural wealth.
As stakeholders in India’s well being, it is incumbent
upon all of us to solve problems without exacerbating things.
The quality of life of the children of India and their children
is closely bound to our actions or inactions today. For India’s
sake, let us, first and foremost, put an end to this destructive
polarisation between ‘wildlife’ and ‘social’
groups and acknowledge that the welfare of the environment
and of all human beings is inextricably interlinked. Let us
also acknowledge that indigenous forest dwellers have been
given a raw deal so far. We should think of sensible and practical
ways of mitigating their suffering without slaying the goose
that lays the golden eggs.
How right you are. I am not surprised at all that your ‘Wild
India Project’ won you the coveted Rolex Award for Enterprise
in 2004! Let’s shift focus. What do such awards mean
to you?
My work, frankly, is my reward. But the recognition
is tremendously useful. The awards support me to do more work.
I’m always – and I mean always – scrounging
for money to add to my equipment inventory and an infusion
of cash is a wonderful tonic.
And what exactly is the ‘Wild India Project’?
It’s a goal I’ve set myself to produce a series
of short films, including a children’s film, over the
next few years on specific wildlife and conservation issues.
I believe that these films will be extremely useful to a wide
cross section of people, from teachers and students to decision
makers and politicians. It will hopefully help them understand
the practical value of our natural heritage. The money from
the Rolex Award is being invested in equipment and I’m
seeking other support to make the films happen.
You are a wonderful combination of passion and rationality.
How did this come to be?
I was incredibly lucky not only to have ‘discovered’
nature very early in life but also the works of great naturalists.
By the time I was 18, I had read every wildlife book I could
get my hands on – Jim Corbett and Jane Goodall, Gerald
Durrell and George Schaller. One thing that I learnt, particularly
from the biologists, was that to make sense of anything as
complex as nature requires years of patient observation and
field experience. It makes me cringe when I see people reaching
conclusions or making momentous decisions affecting the environment
after a cursory examination of a complex problem or the much
loved ‘flying visit’ to a location.
And what led you on the journey from books to the wide world
beyond?
A trip to the Madras Snake Park at the age of 13. I was mesmerised
by snakes and enrolled as a volunteer. The Snake Park became
a second home and the Irula tribal snake catchers
who supplied snakes and other reptiles, as well as frogs and
rats to the Park, became my gurus. My involvement with the
Snake Park led to trips to real jungles, where I experienced
the thrill of stalking all manner of creatures, great and
small, with a still camera. The film bug came later, in the
early ’80s, soon after college where I studied Zoology.
I met John and Louise Riber, friends of Rom Whitaker who had
come to India to make a film called ‘Snakebite’.
Deputed to help them, I became fascinated with filmmaking
itself. While working on this project another great opportunity
presented itself. Sanctuary Films began production of their
‘Project Tiger’ series of films for Doordarshan.
Rom Whitaker and I were both roped in for the Periyar episode,
with a Bollywood cinematographer we were supposed to direct.
Three days into the shoot, the cinematographer threw a tantrum
– waking up at 5.00 a.m. and rushing off to film ‘boring’
animals and birds just wasn’t his cup of tea. He went
home. We took over the filming. There’s been no looking
back since.
It couldn’t have been that easy!
It’s always been fun, but never easy! After ‘Snakebite’,
Rom and Zai Whitaker, Revati Mukerjee and I started a small
company called Eco Media to make natural history films. Our
first forays were close to home and dealt with subjects such
as the snake catchers’ cooperative and wasteland development.
These short, low budget films helped me hone my skills, not
just as a cameraman but also as a scriptwriter and film editor.
Working on a film about Bandipur for Sanctuary’s Project
Tiger series subsequently sealed my fate in the nicest possible
way – I had found my vocation.
How did the break into international television, long dominated
by westerners, take place?
In 1989, we were funded for a film on Silent Valley. This
was the first time anyone was attempting a full-length documentary
on a south Indian wet evergreen forest, a clear case of fools
walking in where angels feared to tread. Armed with an old
Bolex and some still camera lenses, we spent 18 months shooting
in Kerala, and another six months putting it all together.
To our delight the film – ‘Silent Valley –
an Indian Rainforest’ – ended up winning two national
and several international awards. We got taken seriously by
wildlife film producers and broadcasters in the U.K. and the
U.S. This led to more work, both as a wildlife cameraman and
a producer. I found that people in the west really don’t
discriminate so long as you are good at what you do and have
the right equipment.
And you believe that such films actually do help wildlife
conservation?
Absolutely. There are several examples of films leading to
direct conservation. The advent of cable TV and wildlife programming
on television has increased awareness across India tremendously.
But most of these are entertaining ‘animal’
films.
It is true that most broadcasters tend to stay away from serious
issues, or hard conservation stories. And that viewers get
fed with programmes depicting pristine landscapes and a super-abundance
of wildlife, or films that glorify hands-on interaction with
wild creatures – jumping on crocodiles and pulling snakes
out of holes, for instance. The first kind beguiles the viewer
into believing that all’s well with the world. And the
second kind is pretty escapist. But bombarding people with
stories of gloom and doom isn’t the answer either. That
approach won’t work because people watch television
largely to be entertained, and thanks to our opposable thumbs,
the easiest thing for a human being to do is switch channels
when things get boring or too heavy! The trick is to find
creative, alternative ways to reach and hold audiences.
What if you had not discovered filmmaking? What would
you be doing today?
I’d probably be a field biologist cocooned in some deep
jungle. But I’m glad I discovered filmmaking. It enables
me to indulge in my twin passions – spending time in
the jungles of India watching wildlife and capturing images
on film. And you can add to that, the immense satisfaction
of putting all the footage together and turning it into a
work that millions of people can enjoy and perhaps learn from.
And the downside?
Trying to raise money for film projects. The constant
struggle for funding is quite simply the worst aspect of filmmaking
for me. This is always going to be tough and since he who
pays the piper largely calls the tune, what options does a
filmmaker have to networks who wish to feed their audiences
on romantic or fictitious accounts of nature?
Thanks to the digital video revolution it has become possible
to produce decent quality films on small budgets. As I see
it, an audience of 500 or even 50 receptive and empowered
people, willing to act on an issue, could mean more than a
passive television audience of 50 million people. Seeing is
believing, and nothing can compare with the power of a well-researched,
well-made film in changing peoples’ hearts and minds.
And is that why you shot ‘Mindless Mining’, on
the impact of the Kudremukh Iron Ore Co. Ltd. on the rainforests
of the Western Ghats?
Yes. Or you might pick Riverbank Studio’s film on the
whale shark massacre in Gujarat, which helped protect the
species. Often people are ignorant of what’s going on
in another part of the country. So it’s important to
portray problems and, whenever possible, suggest practical
solutions. If you can get decision makers to sit up and take
notice and, at the same time, reach the local community with
the message that what’s happening is a crime against
humanity and very bad for them, then you’ve really achieved
something.
You have had to pay a price for producing such films, right?
Yes, its an occupational hazard, and not just for filmmakers.
All across India, researchers, conservationists and NGOs are
facing harassment for speaking out against the destruction
of our environment (see Sanctuary Vol. XXV, No. 2,
April 2005, ‘Problems in Panna’). Laws meant to
curb poaching and timber smuggling are misused to try and
silence vocal citizens. Until the NGO community and free thinking
people unite against such harassment, people within the establishment
will be encouraged to misbehave this way, with impunity.
Are things changing? Will the next generation be more sensitive
to ecological and wildlife concerns?
There are some signs that children are headed in the right
direction, but their interest and curiosity must be nurtured
and channellised. Schools will soon begin to teach Environmental
Science, following the Supreme Court’s direction, but
is that enough? We need innovative and fun ways of reaching
children. Programmes like your ‘Kids for Tigers’
are immensely valuable.
I’d love to make a film for kids. Children are the most
difficult audience to cater to. To keep their attention and
get your messages across, requires a very, very high degree
of skill and such films actually need larger, not smaller
budgets. But it’s a challenge I would willingly take
on.
Have you any advice for budding young wildlife and conservation
filmmakers?
Do your homework. Thoroughly. Treat your subjects
with respect. Be passionate. Don’t wait for rewards
and recognition. Your involvement is your reward.
Why do you think we are trashing our planet? Will
things ever really change?
I think the woes of the world stem from the fact that humans,
by and large, subscribe to a foolish notion that conservation
is for nature’s benefit. Nothing can be further from
the truth. Nature is indifferent to our antics. If an order
were passed to shoot all the tigers in India, would they care?
If we destroyed all the forests and caused our rivers to go
dry, would the planet give a damn? It’s like having
money in the bank. Does the money care whether we spend it
on education and food or gamble it all away? Nature is a fantastic
gift, a precious inheritance. Mankind has a clichéd
choice – we can either live off the ‘interest’
forever, or destroy nature’s ‘capital’ and
take everything down the tubes with us. We are supposedly
the most intelligent beings on Earth. If only we would start
acting the part, things could be very different on this miraculous
blue planet we call home.
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